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I myself would prefer that we could grow meat in vats and avoid animal exploitation. Even without achieving that, technology may allow us to avoid cruelty - e.g. ensuring that no excess males are born (avoiding castration).<BR/><BR/>You mention eliminating confinement - but it really isn't clear if modern farm animals despise confinement. Some modern breeds of chickens don't go outside, even if their door is open. But the heritage breeds do. I'm not sure that locking in the modern chickens is so awful.<BR/><BR/>With the pigs, it really isn't clear if the modern sows dislike the gestation crates. I suspect using crates on a Mangalitsa or other breed closely related to wild boar would be less humane, because they move around so much.<BR/><BR/><B>The castration is done to prevent taint. I think the idea of doing it in the first week is that the piglet somehow won't remember the farmer coming and cutting off the testicles.</B> I think humans have a similar rationale when it comes to circumcision. They somehow think that the mutilation is OK, so long as it is done early enough.<BR/><BR/>There are many ways to castrate a pig. One easy method is to use a scalpel. Others use bands. I heard old-timers used to use their teeth. I can almost believe that - scalpels go dull very quickly, because pigs have very tough skin.<BR/><BR/>The teeth clipping is performed to reduce piglet-on-piglet damage. The piglets use their teeth to fight for teat positions. Cutting the teeth cuts down on the damage they do to each other. I've heard it also protects the sow's teats from damage, but I don't believe that.<BR/><BR/><B>The tail docking is done because nearly all farms are too dense to avoid it.</B> Even on our farm, a sick piglet will get picked on by other pigs, who will bite his tail off. Although pigs are downright nasty to each other, dense stocking makes it even worse.<BR/><BR/>So the standard allows docking - it would be economically infeasible to do anything else on a wide scale.<BR/><BR/>I mention those surprising parts of the standard because many people probably imagine that "certified humane, raised and handled" allows them to eat meat "guilt free" - but the nature of farming is such that it will probably never be "guilt free". <BR/><BR/>I'll probably not eat much "certified humane, raised and handled product" - because the farmers that I respect can't sell under that certification. <BR/><BR/>I see the certification as a way to make people feel better about confinement operations - so in general, I'm against it.<BR/><BR/>My advice is to go to the farm, meet the farmer and the animals, help out with some dangerous or nasty chores, watch the slaughter and then eat the meat.Heath Putnamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02448892103363285974noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7696187134606183534.post-34731066872014457122007-12-09T13:49:00.000-08:002007-12-09T13:49:00.000-08:00It's hopeful to hear the amount of hands on and ha...It's hopeful to hear the amount of hands on and hands off attention that Gary and yourself are appropriating these hogs. I'm grateful for this blog and any knowledge that I'm able to acquire from it. Wish I had signed up for the German classes in college, guess it's not too late.bob mcgeehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00952374570789892760noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7696187134606183534.post-59454496016026095012007-12-09T07:28:00.000-08:002007-12-09T07:28:00.000-08:00Just curious, but what is the rationale behind the...Just curious, but what is the rationale behind the EU rules on sterilization?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7696187134606183534.post-37938698898307176382007-12-09T07:03:00.000-08:002007-12-09T07:03:00.000-08:00I don't often engage in trying to determine what p...I don't often engage in trying to determine what particular animal husbandry practice is "more humane." From the perspective of someone committed to animal rights, the welfare standards of animals are less problematic than their fundemental status as commodities With respect to your situation, those sows and piglets exist by virtue of your deliberate actions to breed them. Would this happen to feral pigs in the wild? Perhaps, but such is the course of nature. In coopting that process you have created a problem that wouldn't have existed otherwise. Since you are committed to this enterprise, I would hope you choose to use the least amount of confinement necessary to protect the health and well being of all involved: human and otherwise. If that includes limited use of crates, so be it.<BR/><BR/>You also mentioned a provision of the certified humane standards which calls for sterilization at one week. Why is this? Is it simply to prevent boar taint? How is it performed? What about the other procedures you mentioned like teeth clipping and tail docking? Why are they still performed?<BR/><BR/>Hope you and the rest of the farmers are all well or at least recovering; that bruise looks nasty.Sean Boocockhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18425748399576955187noreply@blogger.com