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I am from...Your blog on Iberico pigs was right on! I am from Spain and I have - only a few times - tasted true Iberico ham and it is truly a treat. One must be cautios though, there is a lot of product out there maskerading as "pata negra de bellota" <BR/><BR/>I am looking forward to tasting some of the you pork that you offer and I am planing on visiting the Rocket Market soon. I hope to find some there.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7696187134606183534.post-87401123827604010942008-03-16T10:07:00.000-07:002008-03-16T10:07:00.000-07:00Anonymous - how and why is the Spanish product bet...Anonymous - how and why is the Spanish product better than the Portuguese product? <BR/><BR/>I'd think that they'd be very similar products - similar genetics, similar climate, similar processing, etc.Heath Putnamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02448892103363285974noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7696187134606183534.post-39683434634063464672008-03-14T06:00:00.000-07:002008-03-14T06:00:00.000-07:00Iberian ham is not only meat, is an authentic gour...Iberian ham is not only meat, is an authentic gourmet product. Without doubt the best product in comparison with other european hams produced in Italy, France, or Portugal. In spain Jabugo Iberian ham is different to Guijuelo or Dehesa de Extremadura hams. Now is possible to buy excelent iberian hams at internet in all european countries. Different on-line stores like www.manjaria.com serve this products from Huelva to the European Union.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7696187134606183534.post-55159251850073047782008-02-12T08:26:00.000-08:002008-02-12T08:26:00.000-08:00bob - if you look at the videos at the bottom of t...bob - if you look at the videos at the bottom of this page: http://woolypigs.com/_videos.html<BR/><BR/>You'll see that pretty much all the Austrian farms are muddy. <BR/><BR/>If you keep pigs outside in Austria, you'll have a "sacrifice zone" with mud and dirt. Pigs just run around and eventually root and eat everything until there's only dirt.<BR/><BR/>That's why whenever folks talk about feral pigs, it is about how destructive they are. Given enough time, they multipy to the point of ruining everything.<BR/><BR/>Christoph has a problem with nitrate buildup on his farm. From keeping so many pigs on his relatively small farm, he's damaged his soil. There's nothing you can do about it.Heath Putnamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02448892103363285974noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7696187134606183534.post-78279597679624452842008-02-11T21:43:00.000-08:002008-02-11T21:43:00.000-08:00Bob - I don't think those Iberico look so bad. It ...Bob - I don't think those Iberico look so bad. It looks worse because it is so dry. Come out to our farm in the hot months and it will look as bad.<BR/><BR/>The Spanish pen the pigs because they don't have enough acorns to finish all the pigs. There's too much demand for <I>iberico</I>.<BR/><BR/>In Austria, rather than having them in a dusty lot, they'd be in a muddy lot. Just check out the videos of the Austrian farms at the bottom of this page. That looks marginally better.<BR/><BR/>Anyone who keeps pigs has the problem that they'll eat everything until there's just dirt. That's why the Hungarian lots look the way they do - the pigs root and eat everything.<BR/><BR/>It really is possible to produce better cured meat than the commercially available Iberian ham - as that stuff is normally produced from 3/4 crosses. If one uses pureblooded Mangalitsa and finishes the same way, they'll taste better than the crosses. Of course, that stuff is going to cost more, as the pureblooded animals are less efficient.<BR/><BR/>When I think about the whole thing, I'm surprised that they were able to get the law in Spain and Hungary to say that 3/4 crosses could be called the "real deal."Heath Putnamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02448892103363285974noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7696187134606183534.post-90861173550349207742008-02-11T18:00:00.000-08:002008-02-11T18:00:00.000-08:00Pretty sad looking Iberico in the pens. I guess th...Pretty sad looking Iberico in the pens. I guess the sad thing for me is to see the potential, not acheived. A bit pretentious, I know, and theres so much I don't understand. Would love to spend some time with your friend Christopher there in Austria. <BR/> Something that is very interesting to hear you say, is that there are ways to raise even better hogs in America. <BR/> I have to say that the Iberian at the top of your post, is a damn good looking hog.<BR/> I've seen lots of footage of your hogs outside, and It just seems like they have tons of room to roam.<BR/> I'd think I could raise 10 hogs in my back yard watching that short video you sent.bob mcgeehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00952374570789892760noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7696187134606183534.post-386691756155837142008-02-11T16:34:00.000-08:002008-02-11T16:34:00.000-08:00Bob - market was very slow, due to folks caucusing...Bob - market was very slow, due to folks caucusing. It should be better this week.<BR/><BR/>I really like "hormelitsa." But to make it more ethnic and authentic, I guess we should do <I>hormelica</I>.<BR/><BR/>Also, did you look at the post and see the new photos? I added photos of some fairly sorry looking Iberico swine, and some crowded Mangalitsa crosses in Hungary. I've never seen pictures like those used to advertise the Iberico products. Always they show the fat pig browsing for acorns - never the penned pig looking a lot like a common pig.<BR/><BR/>In contrast, our Mangalitsa pigs really are out there with tons of space. When the Austrians saw it, it impressed them. Because tiny lots like <A HREF="http://woolypigs.com/videos/mpg_lg/pigs_bump.mpg" REL="nofollow">this one</A> are more typical.Heath Putnamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02448892103363285974noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7696187134606183534.post-92058913519239909592008-02-11T15:50:00.000-08:002008-02-11T15:50:00.000-08:00Iberilica, Mangerico, wait if you really want it t...Iberilica, Mangerico, wait if you really want it to sell...Iberian jimmy deanico, or hormelitsa.<BR/> There is something awesome about the idea of hanging a ham for three years, Del Grosso talks about this goose confit that he kept for something like 16 years.<BR/> I have pushed the time envelope with the kim chee that we make at home, 12-14 weeks tops.<BR/> How was market this week end?<BR/> bobbob mcgeehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00952374570789892760noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7696187134606183534.post-27367488657233781382008-02-11T15:01:00.000-08:002008-02-11T15:01:00.000-08:00bob - it gets even worse. In Spain, supposedly Man...bob - it gets even worse. In Spain, supposedly Mangalitsa gets sold as Iberico. That's not so awful - Mangalitsa produced in Hungary taste enough like Iberico that people <A HREF="http://blogs.abc.es/index.php/gastronomia/2006/03/17/jamon_iberico#c13159" REL="nofollow">can't tell the difference</A> - but it does show that once a brand has value, it will get adulterated.<BR/><BR/>Imagine if I called my pigs "Iberilitsas". I'd get blasted by the Hungarians and the Spanish. The Hungarians would be especially angry at me for spelling it "ts" instead of "c".Heath Putnamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02448892103363285974noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7696187134606183534.post-90217629573671010312008-02-11T14:45:00.000-08:002008-02-11T14:45:00.000-08:00It's amazing how much of this is about words on a ...It's amazing how much of this is about words on a label, and that if you pick the right catch phrase, you can really fool alot of folks. thanks for both showing both sides. bobbob mcgeehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00952374570789892760noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7696187134606183534.post-85470765256166654042008-02-11T14:27:00.000-08:002008-02-11T14:27:00.000-08:00cassidy jayne,I understand that you think that sou...cassidy jayne,<BR/><BR/>I understand that you think that sounds downright cruel and unjust. When I wrote that, I figured I'd get the anti-meat folks riled up. I wrote it because it is the truth. When talking with people about pigs, pork and so on, I attempt to be as honest as possible. <BR/><BR/>If done right, the pig lives a natural, happy life and never sees his death coming. <BR/><BR/>Try to look at it from the pigs view: my pigs get to be outside, do natural things. One day the pig is doing his normal thing, when he gets hit on the head really hard, and 18 seconds later he's gone for good. Or maybe he has to go on a trip to a strange place, and after waiting in a pen for a while with his "homepigs," he meets a similar end.<BR/><BR/>Most humans die miserable deaths compared to my pigs. Anyone who spends a few months in a hospital has a worse death than one of my pigs who dies the way he should.<BR/><BR/>Having dealt with things from the pig's view (where it can hardly be better), let's look at it from our point of view: heavy pigs are a tremendous bother. They are aggressive, dangerous and expensive. <BR/><BR/>By the time I've put all that money and time into a pig, with the clear intention of killing him, I am happy to see it on the final approach to baconhood - because if I've done it right, and if we kill that pig properly, let the meat ripen and so on, we know that that pig <B>will</B> make fantastic cured products, chops, etc. By fantastic, I mean 5 to 10 times better than the garbage you get at the store. As in, you've got to give me 10 pieces of your normal bacon to get one piece of mine.<BR/><BR/>You can just look at a healthy, big, fat pig (fattened on the right feed!) and know that he's going to taste fantastic - all 300 pounds of his carcass. <BR/><BR/>I don't take pleasure in the act of killing of the pig. What's great is the sense of accomplishment and finality that comes with completing a job properly. Completing the job means killing a pig humanely and in a way that allows you to use his entire carcass.<BR/><BR/>The worst thing would be to blow it at the end - I've written about this <A HREF="http://woolypigs.blogspot.com/2008/02/jess-thompson-on-our-bacon-no-wasted.html" REL="nofollow">here</A> - if you do things badly, you utterly waste the pig. In that case, you'd be better off if you never even had the pig.Heath Putnamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02448892103363285974noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7696187134606183534.post-53529044643204908832008-02-11T12:59:00.000-08:002008-02-11T12:59:00.000-08:00'It really feels good to send big fat pigs to the ...'It really feels good to send big fat pigs to the slaughterhouse.' As a strict vegetarian I find what you do cruel and unjust. It is just plain messed up to take pleasure in the killing and eating of animals. Just my opinion, but I do wish some more people would jump on the wagon with me and leave these poor pigs alone.Cassidy Jaynehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12974155986496833195noreply@blogger.com